Crossrail into Kent: Bexley Council decide on cheap option for extension plan

Bexley Council and authorities in Kent have submitted their proposed Crossrail extension beyond Abbey Wood to the Department for Transport after two rounds of consultation earlier this year.

Documents before a Bexley Council meeting this week highlight the option chosen, which is the cheapest of two on the table.

Option 1 chosen

It would see 8 out of 12 terminating Elizabeth Line services extend beyond Abbey Wood on existing tracks in contrast to constructing two dedicated tracks at higher cost.

Option 2 saw full segregation

The existing line sees six Southeastern and two Thameslink running beyond Abbey Wood, with two Southeastern services operating the rounder service which they propose to cut.

The plan states that the rounder to be cut heads to the Bexleyheath line, but the vast majority of rounder services actually run to the Sidcup line.

Crayford station before the rounders head around
Housing

Cutting Southeastern services would mean reducing frequencies between Abbey Wood and London Bridge on a line that serves areas of major housing growth, such as Charlton Riverside with 8,000-planned homes plus 1,750 homes near Plumstead station set to begin soon – to name just two major areas of development, would appear a non-starter.

1,750 homes approved near Plumstead station

There’s also Woolwich Dockyard and the Morris Walk estate rebuild approved in recent months. Deptford too is in line for Convoys Wharf (3,000 homes) and numerous other plots.

Convoys Wharf near Deptford station

With limited space for Southeastern services to terminate at Abbey Wood, it would mean 16 services per hour sharing track though that is far from easy to achieve.

Dartford lacks platform space for eight Crossrail services heading through further into Kent alongside not only all current Southeastern services, but two more which would be the current rounder services diverted to Dartford.

A substantial rebuild would be needed.

Dartford would need major rebuild

The full passage in the council report reads:

“The C2E Connectivity Study has completed its work, with the submission of the Strategic Outline Business Case (SOBC) to Government in October.

The study involved a huge amount of work in examining potential public transport schemes along the Abbey Wood to Ebbsfleet corridor and the potential growth in terms of additional homes and jobs that each scheme could unlock.

The preferred scheme is one that would see 8 of the 12 Elizabeth Line trains per hour that are currently planned to terminate at Abbey Wood be extended eastwards, sharing the existing North Kent line tracks with the Southeastern and Thameslink services.

Current terminal for Crossrail – when it opens

This scheme would best meet the scheme objectives set out by the Government as well as wider Government priorities. It also has strong potential to address the challenges faced by the corridor, as well as providing the best value for money.

Along with the Leaders of Dartford and Gravesham Borough Councils and Kent County Council, I signed a letter that was submitted along with the SOBC, highlighting our commitment to the scheme going forward and to the additional housing that would emerge from it.

It has not always been easy, but I am proud that the C2E Partnership has remained strong and cohesive during this process. Although we realise there may not be further progress until Transport for London’s future funding arrangements are determined and the Elizabeth Line hopefully has a successful opening, we will be doing our best to maintain momentum for the project in the meantime.”

That last bit in effect means don’t expect anything soon and with good reason. Government are cutting and delaying transport projects nationwide, and the chances of this project securing funding in the next decade is minimal, let alone building it.

In the meantime though housing will continue to be built, and so other projects that are far cheaper and more attainable can be pushed, such as ensuring Thameslink trains stop at Erith and Belvedere stations.

Other easier goals are extending Thameslink services from 8 to 12 carriages alongside Southeastern services to the same length to cope with passengers and population growth into the 2030s.

 

 

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6 thoughts on “Crossrail into Kent: Bexley Council decide on cheap option for extension plan

  • November 2, 2021 at 7:19 am
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    Sadly I cannot see any planned extension of the Crossrail Elizbeth Line to Ebbsfleet happening with in the next 10 years or so at current Government spending levels for future transport projects in the South.

    With so many new developments and thousands of new homes are already under construction or planned in the near futures in areas served by the Woolwich/Greenwich Line I would be concerned about any cuts to train services in to London Bridge. As this line has already seen cuts to services in the past including cuts to Charing Cross services.

    I do hope the Elizabeth Line stations at Woolwich and Abbey Wood open as planned in 2022 with out any further delays. As the public transport infrastructure needs investing and improvement to be meet future demand.

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  • November 2, 2021 at 9:31 am
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    You would hope that consultants would have considered the different methods of supplying power to the Elizabeth line and Southeastern trains.

    If they had bothered to look at the trains it might have become obvious. One has pantographs and the other doesn’t. It’s too late to make the Crossrail trains dual voltage. You can’t have tracks with overhead and third rail.

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  • November 2, 2021 at 12:52 pm
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    Aventure trains can be retrofitted to have contact shoes. The class 710, for instance, do this on the west London line where it has both OHE and contact shoes. But I may be wrong.

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  • November 2, 2021 at 1:58 pm
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    They were designed and built to be dual voltage because they run on both supplies depending which line they are running on. Where they are fitted with shoes they can switch supplies whilst running. The Crossrail trains were not fitted with third rail equipment as none of the route needs it..

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  • November 2, 2021 at 5:09 pm
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    Can’t argue with this, I don’t see any extension happening this side of 2035, it’ll most likely be the other side of 2040 before any work starts and by then London would have changed drastically.

    Covid has inspired home working and a move to other cities or towns outside London.

    And yes we can’t have any cuts to London Bridge services, and people will always want Charing Cross trains, they’re usually the busiest on the Woolwich line and it’s the one service that runs late into the night, I’d sooner lose a Cannon Street train to be Frank.

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  • November 5, 2021 at 7:01 am
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    You can have Dual voltage trains like the British Rail Class 707 can have a pantograph fitted and the class 707 are operated by the SE trains so OLE would not be an issue and it would better because OLE is safer than third rail.

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