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New application to demolish Sun in the Sands pub

Also rejected

Developers have submitted new proposals to demolish the famous Sun in the Sands pub. It’s not a great deal different to the previous application which was refused. A pitched roof is now in evidence and the grey toned down.

Current building. Courtesy Google

Much like the first application, the plan is a clunky building with minimal character in place of a lovely pub building. Developers would be better off taking a leaf out of proposals to add housing to a restored Victoria pub in Charlton, which was covered here.
The application states that Greenwich Council havn’t included the existing building in the local listing guide of buildings with merit.

It’s not that it gives huge weight like a national listing does, but would show the authority values the existing building.

The rear of the building has seen Greenwich Highways Department spend hundreds of pounds installing a pointless guardrail. Useful for keeping the fly tipping in one place I suppose.

They know how to blow cash on clutter. Less capable on decent quality design sadly.

Back to the plan, and the reference is 17/2493/F.  Make your comment by searching here.




  1. MiceElf

    Horrid design, and apart from anything else who would want to live on a polluted roundabout?

  2. EssKay

    Sadly London has such a shortage of housing that even if these won’t appeal to owner occupiers, they will have no problem being rented out.

  3. MiceElf

    Can’t understand why these developers don’t target the derelict pubs that have been standing empty for years. The Blacksmith in Hill Reach has been empty these 30 years and the one close by that was targeted by the IRA in the 70s is boarded up and ugly. Both a blot on the landscape.

    • CDT

      I agree the Kings Arms is right for development in to flats. As is the old pub on the corner of Johns Wilson Street and Wellington Street which was painted up on the outside but has still been allowed to stand empty for years and years. (It has been so closed so long now I cannot remember the old pubs name).

  4. anonymous201486

    What, no 30 storey tower to dwarf the surrounding buildings and deprive people of light. Bland and characterless, but restoring the pub would mean not enough units could be crammed into the space. I hope the occupiers like the sight and sound of traffic roaring past at all hours not to mention the smell of exhaust fumes when there is a log-jam.

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