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Demolition planned for Greenwich town centre pub

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Developers are looking to demolish the attractive Lord Hood pub in Greenwich. Proposals to replace the building on Creek Road are before Greenwich Council’s Planning Board this week. Planning officers are recommending approval for a new scheme comprising a replacement pub/bar and eight flats.

The existing building is already four-stories with a similar height to its neighbours – Up the Creek comedy club on one side and new-build housing the other. It doesn’t waste land. There’s plenty of scope to build on land to the rear and this should not necessitate the entire demolition of this building.

lord hood replacement

Utilising the extensive land to the rear of the pub (which is also owned by the developers) for a new build would provide similar numbers of flats as this new proposal, with access provided at Bardsley Lane. Then add in flats above the retained pub in the existing four-storey building and these proposals aren’t even likely to give a net gain in homes.

Site plan shows amount of land at rear

Site plan shows amount of land at rear

With thousands of new-build flats now going up within five minutes walk there’s clearly plenty of potential future custom to ensure this pub has a long and successful future whilst remaining in a building with character. It’s hard to see any positives from this proposal.

6 Comments

  1. Walt

    Pub doesn’t seem to attract much custom these days..especially not any newcomers to area. Also, are any of the rooms upstairs actually in use? Never seen any lights on there I think.

    You have a point that the building itself seems to be of good enough quality. It looks like the size of the plot and possibility to extent is too enticing. What I don’t get is, if the owners want to bring the plot “in line” with the other new-builds, why didn’t they sell or work in tandem with them from the beginning. Now you have this weird break in continuity with this development and the comedy club.

    • Mark

      Your post of Mach7, 2016 stating “Pub doesn’t seem to seem to attract much custom these days” Hardly surprising. The pub ceased trading from Jan 1’st 2016. The rooms are still in use by live-in property guardians that help protect the building when in between uses. If the owners wanted to bring the plot “in line”, they can’t. The Comedy Club is a grade II listed building. the developers have no say in changing the frontage. especially if the figures and the clock were in place when the building became Grade II listed. It is a pity that the Lord Hood was rebuilt in the early 1930’s with an added top floor, and that stopped it being a grade II listed building. The was a pub on that site since 1840. known then at the Lord Hood Arms. The address was then 60 Creek Street. Now it is 300 Creek Road. History is being destroyed. Anyone remember the “Heritage wall that was the boundary between the Lord Hood Pub and the then green? I have photo’s of the bricks and the two memorial tablets being carefully packed so as to preserve them. Are they now over time been lost forever? Sorry, rant over. I feel better now.

  2. David Gowing

    This is insane. Keep the Lord Hood. Surely this is a world heritage site!? They must keep the facade, at least!?

    • Mark

      The building needs a preservation order on at least the facade. I believe it still has the original Crittal steel windows in stitu. I have photo’s of the inside of some of those windows. The bar in the pub I have a feeling that it MIGHT be the original bar pre 1932 and then some. I have photo’s of that bar and on the floor at the edge of the bar there seems to be traces of a spittoon that ran the length of the bar. That seems to say that the bar in question must date back a hundred years.
      Regarding the cellar, there is a bricked up section that led “Chinese whispers” to a tunnel that went to Deptford creek. Smugglers perhaps??? I may have a photo of that section of bricked up wall.
      Some one needs to put a preservation order soon.

      • Walt

        To the preservationista’s:

        Please visit the site now and take a hard look at the old bookstore 20 yards away.

        The previous owner has also resisted the new development for a long time, there were several protests to keep the green etc. Now after the fact the place has finally been sold, left empty and taken over by protesters & squatters. The whole place now is a dilapidated mess, bookstore is an eyesore falling apart with rubbish thrown all over the place left to rot.

        All could have been prevented if there wouldn’t have been this pointless opposition in the beginning. Besides the developer would’ve at least build something that would be consistent over the entire frontage

  3. Peter

    In casting his deciding vote for the developers the Chairman said that he sympathised with the objectors but as a vote against would only be overthrown on appeal we might as well not waste time. This seems a highly dubious approach to decision making.

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