Thameslink confirm service cuts over the summer through Greenwich and north Kent
Thameslink have confirmed they are halving services on their route through Greenwich and north Kent to one train per hour from July until the end of August.
The move impacts almost every non-peak train across the day and means fast-growing stations in north Kent will be down to one direct train per hour connecting to the Elizabeth line at Abbey Wood for large parts of weekdays and Saturdays.
Bear in mind it’s not that long ago TfL increased Elizabeth line frequencies on Saturdays given how popular the route is, while with the DfT we see cuts for six weeks impacting the leisure market. Both public bodies but a vastly different approach to rail.
Further west and stations such as Greenwich will see 30 minute intervals between trains for much of the day as a result. That’s the worst service level in decades.

Whilst services often do change for engineering works (see last year’s Blackheath tunnel closure) that’s essential work with no alternative, while this move is down to demands for less spending from government.
DfT press release
The Department for Transport has just issued a press release on plans now they’re in control of Thameslink, Southern and great northern. It explicitly fails to mention the reductions along the Luton to Rainham route, which seems to be the hardest hit of any Thameslink route.
They do highlight service improvements starting in six months time such as further trains to Gatwick.
They also state only two per cent of trains are being reduced which doesn’t sound much, but two per cent of thousands of services is still a hefty number and it’s how they’re doing it that’s damaging to rail growth and public transport usage.
This isn’t carefully crafted peak time extras when fewer commuters are using trains while still leaving a frequent service level but halving trains on a route almost all-day during the summer down to levels far below “turn-up-and-go” standards for urban areas, which tends to mean every 10-15 minutes minimum.

And as for just two per cent of trains cut? That’s not so minor when it’s a 50 per cent cut in trains on one route linking to the enormously popular Elizabeth line.
Another curious line is that they’re cutting to fund improvements later this year. Presumably this is the Gatwick trains as the Greenwich line is not seeing any Thameslink improvements according to the DfT.
Previously those Gatwick trains ran (that move is restoring some prior cuts) but the Luton to Rainham route via south east London and north Kent still managed two trains per hour.
Southeastern
The DfT do state that other operators run alongside Thameslink in south east London and north Kent, which is true, though Southeastern’s services in north Kent do not run to Abbey Wood for interchange to the Elizabeth line.
Further west, the way the timetable is structed means removing a Thameslink service each hour results in no trains between 29 minutes past the hour and 59 minutes past for Deptford, Greenwich, Maze Hill and Westcombe Park. All busy and growing stations. This summer will see major events such as a series of music concerts at the Old Royal Naval College grounds.
The most recent annual growth figures for those stations were:
- Westcombe Park: Up 12.3 per cent
- Maze Hill: Up 11.9 per cent
- Greenwich: Up 14 per cent
- Deptford: Up 16.3 per cent
For north Kent stations, growth was:
- Stone Crossing: Up 15.2 per cent
- Greenhithe: Up 13.1 per cent
- Swanscombe: Up 7.9 per cent
- Northfleet: Up 21.7 per cent
- Gravesend: Up 12.5 per cent
It should also be noted that these rail reductions are occurring in an area where a major road saw a landslip and closed since 2023. Closing the A226 Galley Hill Road in Swanscombe causes substantial impact on traffic, congestion and bus services which are now forced on long diversions.
Reducing rail in such an area is hardly conducive to helping that situation.
Transport Secretary Heidi Alexander stated:
“As we set up Great British Railways, we’re putting passengers first, fixing what’s broken, and delivering a railway people can rely on – one that rebuilds trust, regenerates communities and delivers the high standards passengers expect and deserve.”
Drivers
A lack of drivers doesn’t appear the reason for such wide ranging reductions on this specific route. While the DfT have proclaimed extra drivers as one of the benefits now they’re in control, the process of training additional drivers has been ongoing for some time.
They also highlight the programme with toilets, but again that’s been happening already. Much of the press has dutifully copied the press release and ignored the impending cuts.

In relation to driver numbers Thameslink last year stated on numerous occasions at various council transport meetings they were embarking on a substantial driver training programme which would bear fruit in 2026. By now in other words we’d start to see the benefits.
In addition, previous years never saw this level of halving a service during the summer and the question is, where does it lead if driver numbers are not the issue but demands for cuts emanating from the Treasury? Reductions every half term? Fewer services in Easter and Christmas – at at least fewer over a longer period than traditionally seen. Cutting back in the middle of day?
A gradual chipping away eventually leads to people giving up on rail. The area is already seeing strong growth and high levels of new homes. Don’t throw that away.
These reductions for six weeks may come at a traditionally quieter time overall but it’s still prime tourist season in places such as Greenwich and many stations have been fast growing due to mass new housing.
Comment
As someone who is a supporter of public ownership of rail and improving the incredibly fragmented nature of rail in the UK since privatisation, these cuts so soon after the DfT takeover are concerning.
Some appear willing to brush them off as government are now in control yet those for privatisation will seize on them. Cutting services for six weeks is not the way to win hearts and minds and capture rail’s potential in the area.
Some also say it’s only six weeks. Well, it’s a slippery slope. Ignoring it could mean the Treasury demands more cuts. Less staff, fewer trains and less upkeep would result. These reductions are not the only ones. Government has explicitly asked Avanti to cut services this summer to save money. A pattern could be emerging where the Treasury seek short term cuts at the expense of long term economic growth.
For one thing, a less reliable service is not going to make me and I suspect many others use Thameslink more this summer nor visit places and spend money I may otherwise have done.
Those moving into new homes near stations in, say, north Kent may attempt it, find a long, long wait for a train to reach the Elizabeth line and sack it off in future. Could hardly blame them.
A close eye
Now that the Thameslink service – and others – are in public hands it’s important to look at exactly what the DfT and Treasury are saying and doing. We’re hearing a lot about “sustainable subsidy” which appears shorthand for cuts.
We saw with Southeastern how – under DfT control since 2021 – DfT control resulted in cuts in 2022 which are still yet to be reversed.
They are supposed to be this coming winter. Hopefully that still happens – and service reductions do not become the norm across various lines and operators.
But for now let’s see if cuts start to be pushed on other services.

Interesting to see service cuts affecting Greenwich and north Kent. Has this been a common issue during summer in the past?
No this is new. Not seen summer-long cuts before merely to save a small amount at the expense of the travelling public and wider economy. Not a great “innovation” to be seeing now from the DfT. Stark contrast to TfL with the Elizabeth line.
Common element regarding almost all stations seeing much longer intervals between trains on this line when reductions are implemented is none have ticket gates. Many have little to no staffing presence. Is usage underestimated? Clearly the number of counted passengers is rising but is that missing even larger numbers? Almost seems silly to ask but now government are in direct control will they pay for staffing or ticket gates? I assume not if these service reductions show intent…
Not even thought about staffing and stations which shows how low the bar is when it comes to the DfT and their control of railways. See Southeastern Metro. I mean, sure, stations are managed by SE along this line but merely the thought of it elsewhere seems a long way off.
Maybe GBR will surprise us when established and we see a Network SouthEast v2. They did wonders with improvements such as rebuilding Abbey Wood and Woolwich. It’ll take government support though and a change in attitude from one that decides cuts of 50 per cent are a good idea.
Well at least they are improving trains to Gatwick. Good move from gov
Yep that *is* good news. Though it doesn’t make summer long cuts on the Luton-Rainham line justifiable as seems to be suggested by some. Having a usable service over the summer in fast growing areas with much new housing should be possible alongside service enhancements in six months time on another part of the network.
It’s not either/or – or at least it shouldn’t be. And I don’t buy that only six weeks is fine. It could well drive some people away from rail for the long term. And in fact if this is how the DfT intends to act, what’s the odds it goes down to 1 tph long term when the Gatwick extras start?
It’s important to cover service reductions that government don’t want people to know about and fail to include in their press releases. If they get away with this, they’ll be going for more given the sounds coming from Whitehall.
Whilst Govia Thameslink Railway is now nationalised as part of DfT and renamed as Greater Thameslink Railway and will be part of Great British Railways from the end of next year. Which won’t make much difference to Thameslink, Great Northern, Southern and Gatwick Express services.
I’m really fed up with Thameslink’s Rainham service, it’s too slow, calls at far too many stations, doesn’t Connect us to a West End terminal, and is continually unreliable, this service should become the semi fast service again via Blackheath from Victoria (if Charing Cross hasn’t enough space) it’s been a bad service from day one
Heidi Alexander , Sec of State for Transport says ” We’re putting passengers first ” Really ? These cuts give the opposite impression . Alexander was a Lewisham MP before she was appointed as London Deputy Mayor for Transport, though she is now a Swindon MP. Clearly does not remember her time in SE London.
As for the cuts affecting Greenwich , we also have the DLR to rely on as well as river transport to get to and from our one World Heritage Site but the DLR is also subject to closures . We also have the Greenwich Foot Tunnel but its poorly maintained lifts are frequently out of order and cannot be relied on .
(Both the Greenwich and Woolwich Foot Tunnels should be run by TfL but that is another debate)
We are one of London’s major visitor attractions with approx nineteen million visitors a year.
These public transport cuts are not helpful to that visitor economy and need to be reversed pronto.
Assume Greenwich Council officials and Cllrs are in talks with the rail operators ?
So it be cut to just one train a hour until August. With Gatwick Express to double up their service and capacity. As Govia Thameslink Railway has been taken back into public ownership.
Can we ask whether fare-dodging is contributing to the problem, perhaps? So many people don’t bother to tap basically from Deptford onwards. The trains can’t run for free…
why not add bus then on the routes then
we all pay for a service and people need the right to use trains and not buses or cars all then time you know provider a suitable train service pay for wot the public expect to received not in back in 2000
we are not in Germany or the war you know